Sunday, June 01, 2008
CHILD USED AS A PAWN
Sunday, June 01, 2008
Child NOT bein’ used as a pawn? (whatever) Current mood: satisfied Category: Life
The following is a copy of the IM sent between Brian & I. As you read I'm sure you'd be able ta tell here who has more sence,logic & morals.Correct me if I'm wrong, after you've read it, is this or is this NOT considered as usin' a child as a pawn? not ta mention a man with major issues @ hand? I think it is. What do you think?
Child NOT bein’ used as a pawn? (whatever) Current mood: satisfied Category: Life
The following is a copy of the IM sent between Brian & I. As you read I'm sure you'd be able ta tell here who has more sence,logic & morals.Correct me if I'm wrong, after you've read it, is this or is this NOT considered as usin' a child as a pawn? not ta mention a man with major issues @ hand? I think it is. What do you think?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 01:53 PM): you there
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 01:53 PM): yep
deboro1: (05/30/2008 01:54 PM): ok so if i let ky go tonight, and the kids get what they would like, and you get to spend time with her, what you would like, lets be fair and equal to all here involved... what would i get?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 01:55 PM): instead of kids getting what they would like, and you getting what you would like and i get NOTHING of what i would like
deboro1: (05/30/2008 01:56 PM): can you answer that
deboro1: (05/30/2008 01:57 PM): ?
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 01:57 PM): i dont understand how yer makin this out ta bein as if yer in need of gainin somethin out of us askin ta take kyley to tha drive inn tonight while yer gonna be @ wrk? NOW I do see where as you'd be wantin ta gain somethin out of it IF IT were gonna interfere with yer time with her. However! it's not!!
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 01:58 PM): As I said you'll be @ wrk, why not allow all tha kids spend some time together @ a time whereas it would not be interferring with yer time with her?deboro1: (05/30/2008 01:58 PM): just answer the question... you said in your text, there would be a lot to gain... tell me EXACTLY amy, plz
deboro1: (05/30/2008 01:59 PM): seriously... i would like to know... no more mystery
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:01 PM): that's somthin I'm not able to explain to u Brian due to our views are just so completely different from one another. I've always thot of others before myself. I'm not tryin' ta be mysteriouse here by any means tho my way of thinkin & viewing things are just different than yours. I'm a very spiritual, peacefull individual. I see things in ways so many others fail to see
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:01 PM): here's an example
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:02 PM): please share example
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:02 PM): what has a person gained by becoming a parent?heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:02 PM): what do u feel u have gained by becoming a parent?deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:02 PM): i thought it was an example.. not a question
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:03 PM): u may just see tha example I'm tryin ta give if you'd please just go along with me here
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:03 PM): I've always been more of tha optimistic type I tend ta vere from negativity
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:04 PM): to answer the 1st one... someone that they can look up to for support, care, loving etc
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:04 PM): well from kids point of view
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:04 PM): what about from your point of view?
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:05 PM): from YOUR point of view what have you gained by becoming a parent?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:05 PM): being responsible for said child, providing, being there for child, support, care, etc
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:06 PM): to answer the second... wisdom
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:06 PM): ok fair enuff now lemme share with you what I feel I have gained by becoming a parent
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:09 PM): by becoming a parent I feel I've gained tha most presciouse gift that could ever be possibly given as a blessing from tha creator.I feel I've gained trust within the creator thru my soul to care for, guide & teach tha wisdom within me to them for they are a great blessing to me
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:10 PM): ok so i answered your questions now your turn
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:10 PM): & by doin' so the rewards will be great in tha end. By most those rewrds will go unlooked tho thru me they will be seen
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:11 PM): you just said, tho my way of thinkin & viewing things are just different than yours.
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:11 PM): that couldnt be anymore correct.
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:12 PM): and your saying by allowing kyley to go with you, i could gain what you said above???
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:13 PM): some examples of the many rewards in which I have seen by tha raisings of my children are their ability to come to me with their feelings/problems/concerns, an open relationship, communication, the feeling they have someone to always count on, look up to for support,will ALWAYS be there 4 them no matter what! the gains in which I have been given are so much greater & longer than I could ever list
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:13 PM): or something of the such however i look at things thru my point of view
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:14 PM): deboro1: and your saying by allowing kyley to go with you, i could gain what you said above???
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:14 PM): or something of the such however i look at things thru my point of view
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:15 PM): its a simple yes or no here
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:15 PM): ?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:15 PM): what you gain with your kids is one thing...
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:15 PM): your confusing yourself here as well as me
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:16 PM): lol I'm not confusing myself here by no means
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:16 PM): your wanting me to answer questions on what have i gained with my OWN kid
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:16 PM): thats time spent between Ky and I
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:16 PM): if tha tables were turned,....
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:17 PM): I MYSELF wouldn't be using any of my kids as a pawn 1st off!!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:17 PM): your giving examples of your kids and time spent with them
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:17 PM): I wudn't be actin tha way such as you!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:17 PM): ah ah ah lets be nice
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:17 PM): I myself would look @ it as
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:17 PM): STOP AMY!!!!!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:18 PM): your just typing not reading
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:18 PM): STOP and READ
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:19 PM): your questions you asked me to answer pertain to ky and i... your examples pertain to your kids and you.... and what YOU GAINED...
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:20 PM): my kids really misses the other kid/s, I'll be @ wrk, so it wouldn't be interfering with any of our quality time together, the drive inn would give them all some time to spend together, enjoy an outside movie then I could pick them/her up in tha morning or they/she could be dropped off @ whatever time I choose, why not?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:20 PM): my point is, what do I GAIN FROM YOU SPENDING TIME WITH MY DAUGHTER
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:20 PM): what would i feel Id gain in tha long run by viewin it this way
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:21 PM): I'd feel later dwn tha road my child/ren would view me as never keepin them from anyone they've grown a bond with
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:21 PM): ok ok ok ok ok...... ty ty ty ty ty for FINALLY ANSWERING THAT QUESTION
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:22 PM): OK SO STOP TYPING AND HERES THE ANSWER
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:22 PM): & that alone wud be reason enuff to me, knowin I've done right & have taught my kids to never use anyone as a weapon just to try hurtin someone elsedeboro1: (05/30/2008 02:22 PM): ARE YOU STOPPED???
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:22 PM): lol yup
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:22 PM): just follow along here
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:23 PM): you'll get it
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:24 PM): please hurry i have things that must be done today
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:25 PM): the kids want to spend time with ky... you want to spend time with ky... but i dont want "I'd feel later dwn tha road my child/ren would view me as never keepin them from anyone they've grown a bond with".
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:25 PM): see what i mean, everyone gets what they want.. except me
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:25 PM): i dont want that
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:26 PM): & correct me if Im wrong here but yer wantin ta have sex with me in exchange for tha children havin quality time together that wouldn't interfere with yer time?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:27 PM): i want everything to be EQUAL!!!!!! kids want, you want, deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:27 PM): and i want
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:27 PM): tho I refuse to have sex with you therefore; your gonna keep tha kids from each other & use them as weapons to hurt each other cuz I won't have sex with you??
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:28 PM): that perty much sums it up there if ya ask me
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:28 PM): if i let ky go with you all to the movies... kids get what they want, you get what you want... i again get NOTHING of what i want
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:28 PM): so being equal... its NOT
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:28 PM): & this has ta do with you how? other than tha fact she is your child?
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:29 PM): yer tryin ta bring u & I into it
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:29 PM): which is bein selfish
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:30 PM): this isn't based on you nor I! it's based on tha kids would like ta spend quality time together!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:30 PM): NO you brought yourself into it by saying that you want to spend time with her
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:30 PM): and you benefit from that
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:30 PM): what is my benefits?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:30 PM): you get to spend time with ky too... dont forget that part
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:31 PM): that;'s how u view it tho again that's tha difference between u & I, u think of nobody other than yerself whereas I think of others before myself
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:31 PM): which means you get what you want
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:31 PM): no you dont
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:31 PM): you think oh the kids get to spend time with each other, and so do i cuz ill be there... but fuck brian
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:31 PM): right now i'm thinkin of al ltha kids wantin ta spend time together
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:32 PM): no brian that's not @ all how i view it
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:32 PM): ok lets go with that
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:32 PM): kids all togetherdeboro1: (05/30/2008 02:32 PM): where are you at
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:32 PM): at the time the kids are together
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:32 PM): with them right????
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:33 PM): i view it as all tha kids wanna spend time together, why not allow it ta happen @ a time where it will not interfere with yer time with her
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:33 PM): and thats what you want is to spend time with ky
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:33 PM): so you benefit from you kids wanting to spend time with ky
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:34 PM): what do i benefit from ky and the kids spending time together... you get to benefit... how come i dont
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:34 PM): ya know what I don't care!! my kids have sat here tha whole time with me 7 have read all that has been said, atleast they know I've tried
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:34 PM): equal amy equaldeboro1: (05/30/2008 02:35 PM): tried taking and not giving
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:35 PM): take and take amy
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:35 PM): yer too,....{i honestly am unable ta say how i view u in a nice way @ this current pnt n time}
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:35 PM): never give
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:35 PM): funny cuz that's NOT what you've always told me before!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:36 PM): im trying too
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:36 PM): i just want to know how come the kids benefit, you benefit from time spent together, and i dont
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:37 PM): yer fuckin askin ta have sex with me just so you can benefit from tha children spending time together!!
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:37 PM): now u tell me how in tha hell is that NOT WRONG?heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:37 PM): how is that NOT using yer own child as a pawn?heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:37 PM): HOW IS THAT NOT tryin ta use a child as a weapon to hurt others?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:38 PM): im saying equal....kids benefit, you benefit... answer this... how do i benefitdeboro1: (05/30/2008 02:38 PM): how amy how?
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:38 PM): not ta mention how is that gonna effect, if it hasn't already, yer own child?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:39 PM): im really wanting for her to go but if i cant get a good answer....
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:39 PM): you keep beating around the bush
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:40 PM): no of course Brian all ya ever think about it YOU,YOU,YOU! YOU this & you that! & that;s all ya ever think abuot is you! hell even yer parents said that
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:40 PM): goodness my phone is blowing upheavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:40 PM): boy they weren't bullshittin were they? now I know
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:40 PM): it's not me
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:40 PM): really
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:40 PM): so if i dont want anything in return and i let her go... deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:41 PM): then your the selfish one right?
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:41 PM): No I'm not bcuz i wouldn't be doin it 4 myselfdeboro1: (05/30/2008 02:41 PM): cuz your wanting to spend time with ky...... and offer nothing
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:41 PM): I'm tryin ta do this 4 tha kids
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:41 PM): so they can spend time with each other
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:42 PM): u know just as well as I do they al lmiss each other
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:42 PM): you can do something for someone else, benefit from it, give nothing in return and still be selfish
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:42 PM): ya know yer ,.........................
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:43 PM): right
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:43 PM): (i'm biting my tongue like a mfer here & tryin ta be civil tha absolute best I can) tho must admit
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:43 PM): it's becoming exceptionally hard doin so with a person who's selfish & one minded
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:44 PM): lol
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:45 PM): are u in need of seein a phsychiatrist?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:45 PM): see if the kids wanted to spend time together and you werent there then it would be ok, but since you want to spend time with ky too, and you benefit from them.. its like your using your kids as a pawn to get what you want too... oh snap
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:45 PM): didnt see it that way did ya
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:45 PM): u r sooo fucked in tha head!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:45 PM): ah ah ah
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:45 PM): be nice
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:45 PM): lol
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:46 PM): & if I don't?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:46 PM): see if the kids wanted to spend time together and you werent there then it would be ok, but since you want to spend time with ky too, and you benefit from them.. its like your using your kids as a pawn to get what you want too... thats using your kids as a pawn... getting what you want and being selfish cuz you want to give NOTHING in return
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:47 PM): and getting what you want all in the same breath
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:47 PM): what tha fuck ever Brian!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:48 PM): oh the answer is
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:48 PM): tho if that's how ya view it then so be it, it just goes ta show yer,...............(not even gonna say it)
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:48 PM): thats still being mean
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:48 PM): & there's nothing I'm able ta say ta have ya view it tha way in which we are
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:48 PM): you cant even be nice
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:49 PM): that was the first thing REMEMBER
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:49 PM): lol u really have NO CLUE! on how i can be when Im mean!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:50 PM): cops and courts are meaner i bet... if it comes down to it
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:50 PM): lol is that a threat?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:51 PM): i dont know, i always let others do things first...
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:51 PM): yeah & money can buy alot of things within life tho it's not able ta buy moral values or any of the meaninfull things within life
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:51 PM): b4 i blow up... like break a rule
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:51 PM): lol what rule?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:51 PM): like bring home a phone number from a girls night out... i dont know.. just pulling that out of thin air
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:52 PM):
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:52 PM): lol no yer not!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:52 PM): lol
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:52 PM): yer just tryin ta control me once again & demand what ever & throw a temper tantrum cuz yer not gettin yer way
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:53 PM): no really im not
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:53 PM): just proving a point
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:53 PM): lol & it's pissin ya off even more! cuz again it's not wrkin!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:53 PM): no i feel im in the drivers seat here
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:53 PM): ?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:53 PM): kids want and you want
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:53 PM): i want
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:54 PM): just put my ass out of tha equasion here ok
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:54 PM): we should be equal
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:54 PM): ok then who is taking the kids to the movies
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:54 PM): stop thinkin about yerself! think of tha kids, ya know someone other then yerself here
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:54 PM): u gonna do it? u wanna do it?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:54 PM): no i have to WORK
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:55 PM): go 4 it I don't have a problem with that
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:55 PM): take them yerself if ya want to
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:55 PM): ill take ky maybe this weekend
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:55 PM): my kids will be with their dad tomorrow, u will be with kyley when yer not at wrk
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:56 PM): but im supposed to leave you out of it... so whos taking the kids
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:56 PM): we've made these plans long ago I told all tha kids including kyley that I'd take 'em all to tha drive in tha 1st weekend they were opened which wud most likely be after memorial day
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:56 PM): its 3 oclock... i soon have to get ready for work bout another 30 min
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:56 PM): i have
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:57 PM): so answer the question if ya would plz
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:57 PM): im supposed to leave you out of it... so whos taking the kids
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:57 PM): what fuckin question?
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:57 PM): ya know talkin ta u is senseless, useless not ta mention pointless
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:58 PM): you dont want to give anything in return... ok fine....
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:58 PM): then that means you DONT get to benefit from your kids seeing ky
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:58 PM): or that is selfishness
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:58 PM): unless you give back
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:58 PM): so again whos taking the kids?
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 02:59 PM): tell me right here right now,..what does brian want to gain? what is it exactly you want? in exchange 4 allowin me ta take all of tha kids to tha drive in whereas they can spend some time together w/o it interfering with yer time with her?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 02:59 PM): ya know talkin ta u is senseless, useless not ta mention pointless... i feel the same way its like talking to a brick wall isnt it
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:00 PM): lol go ahead Brian make it loud & clear rt, here rt. now
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:00 PM): i already answered that MANY TIMES
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:00 PM): well do it again ONE LAST TIME!! if ya wud please
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:00 PM): more like what are you willing to give
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:01 PM): I'm giving my time for tha sake of tha childrens happiness
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:01 PM): sorry if u feel that's not good enuff 4 u
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:02 PM): not ta mention gas/money/consession cost
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:02 PM): ok let me reword that.. you get time with ky too... what do i get
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:02 PM): tho that means nothing to me, for tha gains later dwn tha road will be much greater & that 2 me is more than enuff
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:03 PM): oh another thing you gain time with ky and for tha gains later dwn tha road will be much greater & that 2 me is more than enuff
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:03 PM): you'd get ta hear about tha great time yer child had & hear tha happiness within her voice tho guess that's not good enuff 4 u
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:03 PM): jeez... take take take... but no giving
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:04 PM): see your trying to tell me what i get
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:04 PM): i told you what i want
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:04 PM): i guess yer child havin a good time, spendin time with people whom she's grown a good bond with isn't good enuff 4 u
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:04 PM): so fuggin tell me again!!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:04 PM): what your saying i get.... IS NOT WHAT I WANT!!!! BUT YOU WOULD GET WHAT YOU WANT
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:05 PM): so how come i dont get what i want
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:05 PM): answer plz
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:05 PM): i know the answer to that one alreadydeboro1: (05/30/2008 03:05 PM): btw
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:06 PM): & c Brian's not gettin exactly what he wants therefore he's gonna throw a fit & use his child as a weapon, not puttin his own daughters feelings or happiness into consideration
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:06 PM): my daughter is happy without seeing your kids or you
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:06 PM): she has PLENTY TO KEEP HER BUSY
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:06 PM): my sis is in town
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:07 PM): i never said she didnt
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:07 PM): and ky only gets to see her 2 times a year
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:08 PM): & if u claim she's happier not seein tha kids or me then so be it tho ya know deep within yerself yer only lyin' u know she misses them as well as myself dearly
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:08 PM): i didnt say happier
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:08 PM): i said happy
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:09 PM): tho I think that's enuff you've said yer piece, so be it. Afterall I care not ta associate myself with individuals who so chose ta use a child as a pawn to try hurtin others in any way
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:09 PM): then you shouldnt associate with yourself
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:09 PM): i dont use my children or anyone elses as a pawn in any way whatso ever
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:10 PM): cuz you using your kids spending time with kyley to benefit from it is using your kids as a pawn, where as i want to be EQUALS
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:10 PM): if i did then they wouldn't see any of tha people in which I know means alot to them
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:10 PM): and GIVE and TAKE
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:11 PM): yer not wantin equals here Brian yer just wantin ta have sex with me
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:11 PM): not just take or benefit and give nothing back
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:11 PM): as I told u if ya wanna get laid go do it!! go get yerself some it just aint happenin with me
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:11 PM): see if i was saying i want something, and give nothing in return, like your doing, then that would be SELFISH
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:12 PM): no Brian u are tha one bein selfish here
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:12 PM): not me
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:12 PM): Im just not willin to give into havin sex with you & that's pissin u off to no end, isn't it?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:12 PM): NO AMY... i want us ALL to get what he/she wants
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:12 PM): not just you and the kidsdeboro1: (05/30/2008 03:12 PM): thats selfish
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:13 PM): nope
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:13 PM): lol whatever Brian
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:13 PM): its not pissing me off.. as a matter of fact.. im laughing
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:13 PM): heres one for your brain to wrap around....
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:13 PM): say you did give me what i wanted....
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:14 PM): im not gonna have sex with you period
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:14 PM): would i back out and still not let you see ky????
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:14 PM): with all the cards on the table
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:15 PM): lol dunno & really wudn't bother me none as much as it wud tha kids & they're tha ones I'm thinkin about tha most not myself
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:15 PM): <<<------- stands up, puts his arm around ky and walks away FOREVER!!! and never looks back....
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:15 PM): IM NOT GIVING AND GIVING ANYMORE TO YOU... AND YOU WILL NOT TAKE FROM ME ANY LONGER
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:16 PM): WITHOUT GIVING BACK SOMETHING
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:16 PM): brian cut thru all tha stupid ass bullshit get yer head out of yer ass & tell me a few things
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:16 PM): what,,, i have 15 min
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:16 PM): just what in tha hell do u think i have taken from you exactly/
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:17 PM): ?
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:17 PM): there now ya can't answer that one can ya?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:17 PM): a good friend
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:17 PM): & what good friend have i supposively taken from you?deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:17 PM): YOU
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:18 PM): no Brian what happened between us is all on you not Ideboro1: (05/30/2008 03:18 PM): really i broke your rule???
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:18 PM): i brought that home in your purse
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:19 PM): Brian a friendship is given tho once broken it must be re earned. do u really feel u deserve any type of friendship with me w how you've treated me?deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:20 PM): do you think it was fair to bring that number home... or go out with your girl on friday and then go out with me on sat... and then tell her you'd meet her at the door
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:20 PM): when it was OUR night out together
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:21 PM): by tha way I do know where that card came from & I'm thinkin about gettin some info about that person whos name wuz on tha card if that person is single
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:21 PM): maybe I'll drop a line
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:21 PM): ya know we could have went somewhere else and it would have been ok... but since you wanted to change OUR night for ALL of us going out.... FUCK THAT
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:22 PM): good for you
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:22 PM): perhaps then it wud give ya a little justification 2 yer accusations
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:22 PM): i knew you were a liar and not to mention a possible cheater
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:23 PM): by all means i dont think theres anythin ya hate more than ta be proven wrong
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:23 PM): me bein tha 1st really eats @ ya
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:23 PM): i knew you knew where that came from
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:23 PM): & it's eatin ya alive knowin I'm not like any of those other unhonest woman you've been with
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:23 PM): and you lied
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:24 PM): just like myspace blog
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:24 PM): i didn't @ 1st tho found out later it wuz D's
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:24 PM): editing it and all
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:24 PM): adding a whole page of shit
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:24 PM): and rewording some sentences... you did and you know it
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:25 PM): I wondered myself wtf it came from cuz I know i didnt take it from anyone. Come ta find out D said it may have fell out of his pocket cuz he had a few that night
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:25 PM): I DONT CARE AMY!!!!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:25 PM): we are done with each other...
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:26 PM): the reason i say no to kyley spending time with you... cuz there is NOTHING you can give me that would benefit me
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:26 PM): whatever Brian take yer anger elsewhere. I can only pray that someday u will find peace within yerself & someday conquor all of your issues @ hand
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:27 PM): sex is like pizza... yeah its good, but its still pizza when you look at it
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:27 PM): the only anger i have is wasting 4 months with you and gaining NOTHING
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:27 PM): I'm sorry u view it that way
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:27 PM): fortunately I'm unable ta say tha same
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:28 PM): I feel I gained alot
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:28 PM): im sorry you lied about wanting to be a family when we first started seeing each other
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:28 PM): im sorry you wanted to spend more time going out w/friends than with the one that loved you
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:28 PM): tha time spent with you I feel wuz not wasted in any means what so ever tho it wuz time well spent & enjoyed from time-time & alot wuz gained
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:29 PM): well i take that back
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:29 PM): i did learn somethin
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:30 PM): aloot of lessons were learned & that 2 me is priceless
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:30 PM): *alot
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:30 PM): I have VERY VERY FEW REGRETS, if any
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:30 PM): people who spend more time going out with friends than with the one that loves them and keeps secrets, and doesnt tell the WHOLE TRUTH... just have things to hide... and is not for KYLEY or I
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:31 PM): but truthfully, i learned that with my ex wife
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:31 PM): u know not me, yet u've judged me in a bad way from day one
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:32 PM): you gave me examples from day one well night one
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:32 PM): u never even wanted ta see me 4 who I am, instead u saw me as u wanted to see me which wuz like all yer x's
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:32 PM): which isn't/wuzn't me
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:32 PM): for example... you said as i walked in the door the first night... it not like me to leave food out...
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:32 PM): but yet you did
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:33 PM): I am a true treasure, I am who I am, I'm proud of bein me, I'd rather have it no other way cuz i am @ peace with myself & all others around me
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:33 PM): umm no actually I didn't
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:35 PM): u have many issues within yerself that only u can handle Brian before you will ever find a lasting true meaning relationship with anyone. Handeling those issues will take great time & with knowin that I wish you the absolute best on your quest.
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:36 PM): i only have issues with those who keep secrets
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:36 PM): i have to get ready for work now
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:37 PM): farewell Brian
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:37 PM): and the answer is NO amy....
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:37 PM): NO ky... NO more
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:37 PM): Brian yer not tellin me anything I didn't already know
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:37 PM): same
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:37 PM): about what i wanted
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:38 PM): i made it SO far fetched you would say NO... AND SO COULD Ideboro1: (05/30/2008 03:38 PM): fair is fair
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:38 PM): or i could say
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:38 PM): u wanted control & I wudn't give it all 2 u tho wuz willin to comprimise
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:38 PM): you dont always get what you want
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:39 PM): tho u didn't wanna comprimise or get what u wanted so ya threw a fit
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:39 PM): & ya know what yer absolutely correct on that, tho I've never in my entire life expected ta get what I've always wanted
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:39 PM): no to be totally honest, i reset the meeting for ky and her mom... wanting you to give in. then after you did... was going to back out
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:40 PM): and at that point tell you ky would be unavailable
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:40 PM): ? when & where did I give into & ta what?
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:40 PM): no you said i wanted control
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:40 PM): and i was telling you what i was thinking
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:41 PM): oh ok
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:41 PM): dont know if i would have went thru with it...
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:41 PM): cuz getting you prego... would be crap
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:41 PM): & now who's tha one lyin?
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:42 PM): yeah my thots exactly!
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:42 PM): yep i lied after you did MANY TIMES
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:43 PM): a lot of lies to 1.... yep...
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:43 PM): that's just it Brian I never lied
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:43 PM): yeah ya did....
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:43 PM): and do
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:43 PM): I may have left a few things out due to spacin it off tho I've never lied
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:43 PM): i have to get ready for work.... Good luck with your friends... cuz true love wont find those who wont spend time with them
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:43 PM): oh well no, now wait a min I take that back, I have lied to you once
deboro1: (05/30/2008 03:44 PM): Good bye amy.... and good luck FOREVER
heavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:44 PM): & that wuz tha day of my doctors appointment
eavenzeyes: (05/30/2008 03:44 PM): likewise BrianLast message received at 05/30/2008 03:44 PM
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